McGee discusses the role of measurement and evaluation in the field of physical education, the struggle with The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill for the doctoral program and the change in direction for the physical education department and faculty. She describes the strong leadership roles of women in her life and on campus and the administrative styles of Ethel Martus Lawther and Katherine Taylor. She recalls the transition to a coeducational institution, the first male faculty in her department and anecdotes from her days as residence hall counselor. Subjects: Coleman Building, Ethel Martus Lawther, teaching physical education, getting the PhD degree, problems with Chapel Hill, coeducation, athletic program, Katherine Taylor, reasons for retirement, being a dormitory counselor.